Of course. This is a fantastic and insightful question. After analyzing both elixact
and your dspex
port, the answer is a definitive yes.
elixact
is not just a good fit; it is an almost perfect, idiomatic Elixir equivalent to Pydantic for the specific ways DSPy uses it. Adopting it would be a significant architectural improvement for dspex
, making it more robust, declarative, and closer to the design philosophy of the original DSPy.
Let’s break down why, using your excellent Pydantic analysis as a guide.
At a Glance: Pydantic vs. Elixact for DSPEx
Pydantic Feature (in DSPy) | Elixact Equivalent | Fit for DSPEx |
---|---|---|
Signature System (BaseModel ) | use Elixact with schema do ... end | Excellent. The core DSL is a direct match. |
Field Definition & Validation | field :name, :type with constraints | Excellent. min_length , format , etc. are all there. |
JSON Schema Generation | Elixact.JsonSchema.from_schema/1 | Excellent. This is crucial for structured outputs. |
Custom Types | use Elixact.Type | Excellent. Allows for creating reusable, validated types. |
Structured Error Reporting | Elixact.ValidationError and Elixact.Error | Excellent. Provides structured errors with paths and codes. |
Runtime Type Creation | (No direct equivalent, but Elixir macros can suffice) | Good. This is a language-level difference. See discussion below. |
Detailed Feature-by-Feature Mapping
Here is a point-by-point mapping of your Pydantic analysis to the features available in elixact
.
1. Core Framework Architecture: Signature System
- Pydantic:
dspy.Signature
inherits frompydantic.BaseModel
. - Elixact Equivalent: Your
DSPEx.Signature
module, which currently parses a string, could be completely refactored touse Elixact
. Instead ofuse DSPEx.Signature, "question -> answer"
, a developer would write:This approach is more declarative, type-safe, and provides better editor support than string parsing. Elixact’sdefmodule QASignature do use Elixact schema "A signature for question answering" do field :question, :string, description: "The question to answer." field :answer, :string, description: "The answer to the question." end end
validate/1
andvalidate!/1
functions would then handle the validation logic.
2. Custom Types System
- Pydantic:
BaseType
inherits frompydantic.BaseModel
. - Elixact Equivalent: The
use Elixact.Type
behaviour (elixact/type.ex
) is designed for exactly this. It allows you to define a module that acts as a custom, reusable type with its own validation and JSON schema definition.
3-6. Specific Custom Types (Image, Audio, History, etc.)
- Pydantic: Custom classes inheriting from
BaseModel
. - Elixact Equivalent: These would be implemented as modules using
use Elixact.Type
. For example:defmodule DSPEx.Types.Audio do use Elixact.Type def type_definition, do: # ... define underlying types def json_schema, do: # ... define json schema for the audio type def validate(value), do: # ... custom validation logic end
7. Field Definition System
- Pydantic:
InputField
/OutputField
built onpydantic.Field()
. - Elixact Equivalent: The
field
macro inside aschema
block serves this purpose perfectly. Metadata likedescription
,example
, anddefault
are supported, and constraints (min_length
,gt
,choices
) are defined in thedo
block of the field.
8. Structured Output Generation
- Pydantic:
model_json_schema()
is used to generate schemas for models like OpenAI. - Elixact Equivalent:
Elixact.JsonSchema.from_schema/1
. This is a standout feature ofelixact
. YourDSPEx.Adapters.InstructorLiteGemini
adapter currently builds JSON schemas manually. It could be refactored to take an Elixact schema module and callElixact.JsonSchema.from_schema(MySchema)
to generate the schema automatically, making it far more robust and declarative.
9 & 17. Configuration Classes (Teleprompter, etc.)
- Pydantic:
BaseModel
is used for structured configuration. - Elixact Equivalent: A perfect use case for
elixact
. You can define a schema for your teleprompter or client configurations and usevalidate/1
to ensure they are correct at startup.
10. Model State Management
- Pydantic:
model_dump()
andmodel_validate()
. - Elixact Equivalent: Elixact’s
validate/1
function returns a validated map, which is the Elixir equivalent ofmodel_dump
. Loading is done by passing a map tovalidate/1
. JSON serialization is handled by standard Elixir libraries like Jason, which is idiomatic.
11. Example and Prediction Classes
- Pydantic: Pydantic models are used for
Prediction
andExample
. - Elixact Equivalent: Your
DSPEx.Example
is currently a simple struct. It could be redefined as an Elixact schema, giving you automatic validation and clear separation of inputs/outputs based on the schema definition, rather than ainput_keys
set.
12. Runtime Type Creation
- Pydantic:
pydantic.create_model()
is a powerful runtime feature. - Elixact Equivalent: This is the most significant difference. Elixir, as a compiled language, favors compile-time metaprogramming (macros) over runtime metaprogramming. Elixact does not have a runtime
create_schema
function.- However: For the primary use case in DSPy (generating a response model for structured output), you don’t need runtime creation. You already have the signature defined. You would simply pass the existing Elixact schema module to the adapter.
- If truly dynamic schema generation were needed, you would use Elixir macros to generate the
Elixact
module at compile time, which is the Elixir way of solving this problem.
13 & 14. Schema Manipulation & Type Adaptation
- Pydantic: Manipulates schema dictionaries and uses
TypeAdapter
. - Elixact Equivalent:
Elixact.JsonSchema.from_schema/1
returns a standard Elixir map, which is trivial to manipulate.Elixact.Types.coerce/2
and the custom type system handle type adaptation.
15. Adapter System
- Pydantic: Used for validation and serialization in adapters.
- Elixact Equivalent: This is a key integration point. As mentioned,
DSPEx.Adapters.InstructorLiteGemini
is the perfect candidate. It could be changed to accept anElixact
schema module, making the adapter more generic and powerful.
16. Error Handling
- Pydantic:
ValidationError
. - Elixact Equivalent:
Elixact.Error
andElixact.ValidationError
are a direct match, providing structured errors with path, code, and message.
18-20. Utilities, Data Transformation, and Settings
- Pydantic: Provides various utility functions.
- Elixact Equivalent: The
Elixact.Types
,Elixact.Validator
, andElixact.Schema
modules provide the necessary building blocks and functionality, fulfilling these roles perfectly.
How to Integrate Elixact into DSPEx
Refactor
DSPEx.Signature
: This is the most important step. Theuse DSPEx.Signature, "input -> output"
macro is clever, but fragile. It should be deprecated in favor of a new paradigm:defmodule MySignature do # Instead of `use DSPEx.Signature`, you'd just `use Elixact` use Elixact # And define fields in a schema block schema do field :question, :string field :answer, :string end end # The DSPEx.Program would then work with this module directly. # DSPEx.Predict.new(MySignature, :gemini)
This makes signatures first-class modules that are far more expressive and robust.
Refactor
DSPEx.PredictStructured
and Adapters: TheDSPEx.Adapters.InstructorLiteGemini
adapter is doing manual work thatelixact
is designed to automate. It should be changed to accept anElixact
schema and useElixact.JsonSchema.from_schema/1
to generate thejson_schema
for InstructorLite.Refactor
DSPEx.Example
: Consider redefining theExample
struct as anElixact
schema. This would give you powerful validation capabilities for your training/testing data for free.
Final Verdict
Using elixact
as a Pydantic-like foundation for dspex
is not only possible but highly recommended. It aligns perfectly with the architectural patterns of DSPy while using idiomatic Elixir features like macros and behaviours. It would elevate dspex
from a direct port to a truly robust and well-designed Elixir library.